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Thanks for finding the image! —No-One Jones 15:15, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Glad you liked the image. There is also a sculpture around ([1] or [2]), but I wasn't sure of the copyright status of images of old scupltures. BTW, how come a historian got arms and a chest like this? Guess his second occupation was blacksmith, unless the artist cheated a bit ;-) -- Chris 73 | Talk 15:26, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Image request

Thanks for fulfilling the image request on Ted Bundy. blankfaze | (беседа!) 19:32, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)


DYK candidates are picked by anyone who has time and inclination to pick them. (Frankly, it's me a lot of the time, but then again, a lot of the time it's others.) PLEASE feel free to add something on there yourself. PLEASE. :) jengod 19:00, Aug 9, 2004 (UTC) link removal

I don't understand your reasons for removing links to They were relevant to the articles, and useful in my opinion. The linked address was non-commercial online gaming site, so what's the problem? Are you going to remove links to, say, sites containing rules or history of many games just because they are linked from many pages at wikipedia? (by user:

I removed the links because you added the same site to a large number of different articles, and in my opinion they did not contribute to the article. If there is a section about the history of the game, or strategy, etc, that complements the wikipedia article, then this would be OK, but I don't think free games fall into this category. A lengthy discussion can be found at Wikipedia talk:External links. -- Chris 73 | Talk 00:44, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
If you think that links to free online games don't contribute to articles about games (which is nonsense in my opinion) then please be consistent in removing those links. There are many articles about games that contain links to pages where you can play those games, and some articles' external links are practially just that (e.g. Space_Invaders which is in today's "did you know.." section of the wikipedia front page). If you still think your decision to remove links to was right and don't have time to remove those other remaining links (tons of them), then please let me know and I'll hapilly remove them although I think they do contribute to the articles.
I removed a number of links of different sites. Yet, as Wikipedia has 300,000+ articles, I cannot check all articles, and just do things as i notice them. How about you pick one article (e.g Internet game), and add your link there? -- Chris 73 | Talk 19:28, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Do you really mean links to online games should be removed from all articles that contain them (saying you can't remove all "bad" links from all articles because there are too many of them means just that)? That's absurd because they have been here for ages and no one had any objections. As for adding a link to just one article, it contradicts what you said before, namely, that those links weren't contributing anything. I'm wondering what could have been the real motive for this removal. Is it possibly that you are trying to get some "karma points" here at wikipedia for making lots of changes? Practices like that won't get you far in the long run. Please stop now and think twice the next time you "fix" anything.
Like everybody else here, I remove content that i see unfit and add content that i see fit. And, if you're talking about real motive: what is yours? Adding content to the articles, or just trying to drive traffic to your site? You have not done anything else but adding links everywhere. You don't even have a login. You did not even state if you're affiliated with this site. I believe my removal of the links was justified. On the plus side, I have to note that your site seems to be indeed free, and does not even require an email adress for a login. Thats good. (Occasionally free site links here are not that free at all) -- Chris 73 | Talk

Menstrual cycle image

Wow, I think Image:MenstrualCycle.png is the best illustration I've ever seen on Wikipedia. OOTD I'll have to check out your other images... - dcljr 10:02, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for the cricket images. Hope you can find more. nichalp | Talk 19:57, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)

Parallel parking animation

Thank you very much--nice work! I only put in that request after a spot of difficulty Saturday night, but I won't go into it. Suffice to say you're extremely helpful. All the best, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 14:28, 2004 Aug 17 (UTC)

Metric time / Decimal time

File:Chocolate Chip Cookie Pic.jpg

This is an ongoing problem. The user you're speaking with appears to think he owns the articles in question. Don't worry; you're not the only person dealing with him. In the meantime, have a cookie. -- Grunt (talk) 14:58, 2004 Aug 20 (UTC)

Thanks for the cookie (crunch crunch). S/He is either a newbie who needs some guidance or a future problem user. I hope for the first. -- Chris 73 Talk 15:04, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I also hope for the first, but flat out ignorance of the existence of/refusal to read the MoS does not seem to be helping matters... -- Grunt (talk) 15:07, 2004 Aug 20 (UTC)

oscar niemeyer image

I was surprised to find so soon the images on oscar niemeyer. one more Thanks to your list.--Alexandre Van de Sande 14:49, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Glad you liked the images. It's a nice article, and deserves some images. The site which had the public domain images had some more, in case you need them. Check the image pages for the link to the source. Search for Niemeyer, most of them are PD, others you have to ask the author. About Image:Work of Oscar Niemeyer.jpg: I wasn't quite sure which building that is, but found a similar image titled as Praça da Liberdade. Is this correct? Does this have an english translation? Thanks. And good luck with the featured article nomination. -- Chris 73 Talk 15:12, Aug 22, 2004 (UTC)
girl, this was almost an online chat. Praça da liberdade means Liberty Square. I will search for more images and do some editing in this article later in the week.--Alexandre Van de Sande 15:30, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Scots Guards image

I've just realised that this image is not a Scots Guardsman [[3]. I believe he is a Grenadier Guard because of the white plume on the bearskin. But must say, thank you for getting all those photos! SoLando 16:08, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Mintguy RFC

Chris, so you know, I spoke to User:RickK about moving his comments. Take a look at his talk page. I pointed out that he was responding in the wrong section. Hope you'll edit your comment on the RFC page, since there is no "wrong doing" or bias on my part. -- Netoholic (Talk) 16:54, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Update, RickK cleaned up his Talk page... my messages to him can be seen inthis edit, where I explain the reason for keeping the structure of the RFC clean, and even encouraging him to restore his comments per the format. Please be fair to me, even if you don't agree with the basis of the complaint. -- Netoholic (Talk) 19:47, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I reworded my comment on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mintguy a bit, but I still think that your effort of cleaning up the page threw out the baby with the bath water. Together with the IMHO unreasonable accusations, this makes YOU look bad, and not Mintguy. -- Chris 73 Talk 23:48, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

Welcoming new users

Just a suggestion, but you might want to consider Wikifying your welcome messages for newbies. I doubt most of them know about the project pages. Also, why don't you add yourself to the Welcoming Committee list, since you're doing it anyway? :) --Slowking Man 07:30, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)

Dieties v Deities

Um, oops, good catch and thanx.... Maybe I shouldn't edit this late at night :) -- Netoholic @ 05:09, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)


Hi there, I've just come across you Image:TofuWithSoySauceAndCarrot.jpg on Tofu and wanted to say thanks for sharing this with us. I think it's a very beautiful picture. Then I've also seen your gallery... impressive! Have a happy day! Kokiri 17:47, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Cricket images

You had added certain images to the Cricket article (now a featured article) from its German page. However the German image source does not have any copyright status (PD or GFDL) hence the images have been removed from the article. Please could you clarify the status of the original images? Thanks ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | 20:54, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)

Summon Admin

I came across something that isn't an article, but shouldn't be tagged for Speedy Deletion quite yet, either. What it really needs is the attention of an admin who is currently online. I clicked Recent Changes and looked for the name of someone I knew to be an admin. Guess which name was the first I recognized. :-) Would you be willing to take a look at Chilef and begin the appropriate dialog? Thank you. SWAdair | Talk 08:31, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for the notice. Thanks for remembering me ;-) I moved the entry from Chilef to the Wikipedia:Village pump. I think this is a better place for the request, if i understood it correctly. Also dropped a note on the contributor talk page. Happy editing. -- Chris 73 Talk 08:41, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)

Edit attribution

Hi Chris. Edits from and have now been reattributed to your username. Regards Kate Turner | Talk 23:05, 2004 Sep 4 (UTC)


You posted an image of a Damascus steel pocketknife in that article. I guarantee you it is not Damascus steel, but pattern welded steel instead. Knifemakers deliveratly use the incorrect term because it sounds cooler. The image should be moved.Maury 00:28, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. i am no expert in that, and just believed the title of the german wikipedia image de:Bild:Damast01.jpg where i found the image. I have removed the image from Damascus steel, and added it to Pattern welding. Also changed the label on Image:DamascusSteelPocketKnife.jpg. Thanks -- Chris 73 Talk 07:18, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)

Hi Chris 73, I have made a new photo of my pocket knife, which you can find here: [4]. In the German language there are no differents between the methods of forgeing steel pieces like this knife blade, it is always called Damaszenerstahl. For additional informations: My knife has been forged by Manfred Sachse, a knife-smith who has reinvented the methods of making Damaszenerstahl. The company which sells knives like this is the Boeker Baumwerk GmbH in Solingen. Markus Schweiss

Menstruation picture

Hi! Thanks a lot for your nice illustration of the menstrual cycle. I have two little requests: the body temperature graph cannot be quite right, since the body temperature at the end of the cycle is much higher than at the beginning, suggesting a sudden temperature drop at the onset of menstruation, which I believe does not occur. Or does it? There's the same issue for the red FSH hormone line. Also, could you add a word or two cautioning people that the day numberings are just averages and differ among women? We say as much in the article, but I guess it couldn't hurt to repeat it in the image. Cheers, AxelBoldt 17:58, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hi. I will do so soon, but currently i am on a trip and away from my regular computer with the neccessary software. I hope to get around to do it next week. I will also include some comments I got when I tried to nominate the image as a featured image, but recalled the nomination. May nominate it again at a later point after fixing it. Cheers -- Chris 73 Talk 21:21, Sep 14, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks, and have fun on your trip. AxelBoldt 22:36, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Trip was highly sucessful. I updated the image based on different online sources (google image search). The lines match now, and there is a "average only" sentence at the bottom. (Press CTRL-Reload if you still see the old image) -- Chris 73 Talk 13:35, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for photo cleanup! Elf | Talk 01:48, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Image Copyrights

  • How do I "filter" my contributions so show only Images, so I can post credits/tags on pictures?--AAAAA 01:48, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • According to the Fair use article in Wikipedia, Fair use allows such things as these, with no license required:
    • Helping people to find a work. Search engines such as Google use reduced resolution portions of images to help people locate the image they are interested in.
    • Helping people to decide to purchase a work, by including parts of the work in descriptions. Retailers, particularly electronic retailers such as, commonly make fair use of cover art or portions of a work to help customers to decide to purchase a work, in the online situation effectively duplicating the normal shopping browsing experience.
      • Doesn't a picture of a commercial product promote the sale of the product, and therefore, the picture of Tambocor.jpg can be considered Fair Use?--AAAAA 02:10, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
        • Correct. Product promotional images will almost always be fair use in article about that product, since their prupose is to promote the product and a wide audience assists with the purpose of the image. Jamesday 16:32, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Galgol Espanol

Thanks for pointing out:

"Galgo Espanol (Spanish Greyhound)

Done. We had an image already on Wikipedia. Check Wikipedia:List of images/Nature/Animals/Dogs -- Chris 73 Talk 02:37, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)"

I created that page almost from scratch, add photos to it nearly daily including nearly every photo on there, and added instructions to the dog breeds project to go look there for unused photos when creating a new breed page. So did I bother to go and look? NOOOOOoooo--the brain didn't remember such a photo on that page, so the brain didn't bother to even check. This is where I appreciate having other people on a collaborative project.

BTW, you did such a nice job on the Schipperke photo--anything you can do with Image:Pekeapoo.jpeg? I downloaded it myself & played a little, got it a bit more correct on the color but then the image became too dark (see Image:Pekeapoo_fx_wb.jpg), especially after I tried to get rid of the red eye a bit. I'm still a photoshop neophyte (and don't have te full PhShop, just Elements).

Elf | Talk 16:57, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hi. I thought Wikipedia:List of images/Nature/Animals/Dogs was your page, since I recognized a lot of the dog photos. Good work. I found the image using google image search, and noticed that the second entry was from Wikipedia. I also had my try with Image:Pekeapoo.jpeg, and uploaded the new image over the old one. See the history of the image for comparison (and don't forget to CTRL reload to see the new image). BTW, I am using the GIMP, which is almost as good as photoshop, but free. Give it a try -- Chris 73 Talk 23:32, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)

Not so very famous languages

Hi. Just wanted to ensure you that I looked at every article on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Esoteric programming language related at least twice, and also voted to KEEP some of them, but most are in my opinion rubbish. That they were added all at once may be a bit overwhelming at first, but would you rather prefer me to add three articles a day to VfD for the next month? Again, my goal is to improve Wikipedia by keeping/improving the good and throwing out the bad. I am sure you have the same goals, and we just differ in what's good. That's what VfD is for. By the way, did you actually look at all articles before you voted KeepAll? Even O xml and TMMLPTEALPAITAFNFAL? Just curious -- Chris 73 Talk 16:09, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

You DID do a remarkably good job, hitting the spot with many of your coments for each separate language. I'm not sure that this is the right way to deal with VFD though. Many of the langauges do turn out to be encyclopedic, so I'm voting to keep en bloc. There's not so many of them that they take up any noticable amount of space, and I don't believe that will happen in future either. (As a note: you've used up more space on the server with the VFD than can be reclaimed from deleting these articles. Oh Dear.) Kim Bruning 16:43, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Why do you hate esolangs so much? You made an incredible effort by VfD'ing and meaninglessly google-hit-testing all the esolangs and, like Kim Bruning just said, used more space with that than would be saved by deleting the langs. Wikipedia currently has the widest list of esolangs in the web. I think that's admirable and I see no reason why Wikipedia could not hang on to that status. If you think that Wikipedia is not a code repository, please nominate Hello world program for VfD too. Another thing that strikes me as odd is that you nominated something that you yourself also thought that should be preserved. What's the point of that?-O Also, before you judge languages as jokes and/or non-existents, see the External links -sections of them instead of searching with Google. Even Google is not almighty. I see a nice place for a huge VfD and/or Edit War here but I'll just use my superb wit and sarcasm instead of getting that low. --ZeroOne 21:53, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for Coat of arms of Corsica

Thank you for uploading the image of the Coat of arms of Corsica. I wasn't sure how to complete the license information properly. コルシカ島 was the featured article on the Japanese Wikipedia, so it was good to have the image in the English article Corsica. Thanks again. -- DanBlackham 07:28, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Cathedral of Magdeburg

Hi, I recently nominated this article for feature article status, however someone has objected to the lack of references. Is it possible that you could include some? Deus Ex 19:45, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for nominating the article! Currently I am on a trip, but I will be back on thursday and then can add a lot of references, both paper and online. I added a comment about that to the freatured article page -- Chris 73 Talk 23:39, Oct 3, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the response Deus Ex 17:21, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Hi Chris, Thanks for downloading the bigger version of Image:Sunflowers.jpg. Did you also saturate the colours a little? The previous version didn't have particularly good colour in the leaves and sky, so its an improvement - but the yellows look a little too saturated to be natural now (on the other hand I'm not sure my monitor is callibrated properly, so it might be just me). -- Solipsist 17:14, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hi. I just downloaded the large image and made it a bit smaller. original size was 1MB, now its about 280kB. I did not touch the color controls at all. Not sure if the image is oversaturated, but it is definitely not under-saturated. Please feel free to adjust if neccessary, thanks for nominating. -- Chris 73 Talk 22:19, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)
I guess someone at the USDA must have gone round and boosted the colours on most of their photos. Their gallery pages all look a little 'loud'.
They've got some impressive agriculture shots though. I noticed that most of the photos on the USDA gallery pages had already been harvested for Wikipedia. However searching on obvious keywords helped me find many more excellent photos to illustrate articles without images. -- Solipsist 08:12, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)


I've modified this image in the GIMP to delete its French legend and some other artifacts. Etz Haim 00:17, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Japanese toilet

Japanese toilet - Wow ! SweetLittleFluffyThing 01:28, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Admin nomination

G'day mate, thanks for your support of my nomination for admin! - Ta bu shi da yu 03:05, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks. And of course, for the good work. Also makes me feel good because I nominated your nominator (Lupo) :) -- Chris 73 Talk 03:58, Oct 15, 2004 (UTC)
Very six-degrees-of-seperation :) Thanks for the thanks about my thanks. - Ta bu shi da yu 04:13, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Nice work on pillow fight. I greatly appreciate it! [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 05:34, Oct 15, 2004 (UTC)


Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. About my image Barlach Magdeburger Ehrenmal on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates: I went back to my original version and doctored around with the gimp. The original version is in focus, and only got out of focus while removing the grain in the image. In the current version I have despecled only the background, and the sculpture itself is still sharp. Please have a look and let me know if this is this better now? (Press CTRL - Reload if necessary) Thanks. -- Chris 73 Talk 14:56, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)

Hello, Chris, thanks for the message, I'll withdraw my opposition. Best wishes,--Wpopp 09:15, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I am glad that you like the new image better. Thanks for changing your vote. Also, again Willkommen to Wikipedia. I am not sure how familiar you are, so here are two links: Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers and Wikipedia:How to edit a page. Also, feel free to ask me anytime if you have a question (German optional, Landsmann). Happy editing -- Chris 73 Talk 07:07, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
Na, prima, zwei Deutsche treffen sich auf der englischen Wikiseite. Danke für das Hilfsangebot, ich werde sicher bald darauf zurückkommen (will Bilder zu Artikeln hochladen und weiß noch nicht, wie). --Wpopp 13:38, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Uploading images: Prepare an image, descriptive filename, good resultion (larger is better, can easily be resized for articles), not too large filesize, preferred in jpg, gif or png format. On the menu on the left you see "Upload file". This gets you to the upload dialog, select the file, add a comment, and check the I affirm that the copyright holder. You'll get a small confirmation request if the filename has to be changed (e.g. "Barlach Magdeburger Ehrenmal.jpg" to "Barlach_Magdeburger_Ehrenmal.jpg") or if you overwrite an older file (which is not deleted but stored in the history). You'll get a link to the image site after a sucessful upload (e.g. Image:Barlach Magdeburger Ehrenmal.jpg). Add a proper description and Wikipedia:Image copyright tags, and you can use the image in pages (Wikipedia:Picture tutorial). For more info see the articles in Category:Image help. Hope this helps. BTW, my feeling is that there are quite a lot of germans here at the english wikipedia. Happy editing -- Chris 73 Talk 14:42, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
OK, thanks for the very useful hints. Could you have a look at the first pic I put on a page (de:Kleiner Wasserfrosch)? I'm quite happy with the result on the page, but the picture is too big (dimensions done with Adobe PhotoDeluxe somehow don't come out as intended). -- Wpopp 16:05, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC) Talk
The image looks good to me. The large source image is great, and the smaller image on the article also matches.(someone actualy made it a bit bigger, from 210 to 293 pixel). I usually try to to upload large resoltion images with at least 1024 pixel in the larger direction, so your upload de:Bild:Rana lessonae (Salagon) 20040531.jpg is cool. The only difference I would have done is a slightly higher compression ratio, the current image is 1 Mb, but that is personal preference. -- Chris 73 Talk 22:30, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks again, Chris, I am reassured. The compression ratio would be the option "Picture Quality" in Adobe, I guess. In fact, I chose maximum quality, but maybe that's not necessary. Do you know a good, cheap (?) photo editing software that is more user friendly and versatile? --Wpopp 10:04, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I use the following:
  • IrfanView for quick editing (Brightness, contrast,...) and viewing, saving my files usually with a JPG compression ratio of 85%, available for Windows
  • The GIMP for high level editing, almost the same functionality as adobe photoshop, for Windows and linux
  • "Draw" for creating and editing vector graphics, for Windows and linux
All the programs are 100% free and available for download. (irfan view may be non-commercial only, but I am not sure). Have fun -- Chris 73 Talk 11:15, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
Ok, Chris, I downloaded IrfanView for a start and will try to get startet. Best, --Wpopp 15:38, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Decimal time

You listed this on WP:LO, but I don't see a cleanup banner in the page history, so I'm removing it. Let me know if this is a problem. JesseW 22:42, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

State house image

NIce addition to the Boston article! [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 19:39, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Agreed! I copied it to Massachusetts, where it also seems appropriate, since it's the state house. It seems that capital cities get all the best photos, while the broader regions have articles that are almost entirely text, and thus visually dull. I've tried to add lots of my own photos to prefectures of Japan, including Hokkaido, Aomori Prefecture, Akita Prefecture, Kyoto Prefecture, Nagasaki Prefecture, Okinawa Prefecture. Chris, I'll bet you could add to the list! Fg2 06:28, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)


Beautiful images. See how swiftly I grabbed your detail of the base of a column for Ionic order! Do you have any more architectural details? They're badly needed at Wikipedia. --Wetman 10:02, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. Working on it right now. I am currently going through Stock.xchng, adding photos in a somewhat random order, e.g. a Topless Goddess followed by a cockroach closeup followed by a Ionoc base, and others. I'll see if i can get the doric and corinthic images, too. -- Chris 73 Talk 10:10, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

U.S. state capital pages

You wrote, "Hi. I am working on your capital image requests. All cities now have a location map. I also took the liberty of changing the request on Wikipedia:Requested pictures from a table into a regular list. Happy editing -- Chris 73 Talk 08:29, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)"

Hey Chris 73. Thanks a ton for helping out with the U.S. state capital pages. Everything looks great. - Redjar 04:17, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Image:Tugra Mahmuds II.gif

The picture was originally part of the german article Tughra where the missing strokes are explained:

Die Schweife an den Hasten hatten ursprünglich nur Zierfunktion und können später, je nach Name, auch als Buchstabe alif verwendet werden, wie im Beispiel ganz rechts. Auch der linke Teil des «Fußes» wird mit Verzierungen gefüllt, wenn der Zeichenbestand des jeweiligen Sultansnamens nicht ausreicht. Aus diesem Grund bleiben in der Animation einige Linien grau. -- 08:40, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hallo, since you gently offered advice, can I ask you what happened with the photo I uploaded on German Wikipedia? I just wanted to use a cut-out, but when you look at it now, it's warped like in a concave mirror. And, troubling too, the pic shown in the article and the one shown when you click on it are not the same. Thanks for the trouble --Wpopp 20:37, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

That is a known problem with internet browsers. You uploaded one image, and the browser put this one in the cache. After you uploaded another image (e.g. different format), the browser used the old cached image, and stretched it to the new dimensions, hence the warped appearance. To fix this, simply clear your browser cache by pressing "CTRL" & click Reload at the same time for Internet explorer, or just click reload on firefox. This clears the cache and updates the image. Glad I could help. -- Chris 73 Talk 23:28, Oct 28, 2004 (UTC)
Thank you, that's perfect! --Wpopp 08:57, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for moving my request for pix, full thanks on my talk -- Leonard G. 03:24, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Hi. Could you add the source and a copyright tab to Image:Ianbotham.jpg? -- Chris 73 Talk 02:47, Oct 31, 2004 (UTC)

Hi Chris... the Ian Botham image has been on my on my computer a while. The original site can't be found, so should be ok to use?... address is BladeSteve
thanks for the quick response. the question is: Who owns the copyright? Did you take the image, or did you copy it from e.g. a copyrighted news article? BTW, the link does not work for me. -- Chris 73 Talk 03:28, Oct 31, 2004 (UTC)
Chris.. as I said it's ages since I downloaded the image, so don't know about the copyright or what sort of site it was on...still on Google but page not found as I said before. Should it be removed or just leave it as it looks neat on the page.....BladeSteve
I added an {{unverified}} tag, and copied this conversation to its talk page. That should be OK, although we still may have to delete it at one point because we do not own the copyright. Finding public domain images of peopleis always a hassle. -- 03:40, Oct 31, 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Danny's contest/winners

Congratulations! Japanese toilet won second prize in the New article contest. Please send me an email to let me know where to forward your prize (a Wikipedia t-shirt). Danny 01:12, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

A question

Hi Chris, I'd just like to inform you that User:Sj has nominated Old Swiss Confederacy as a featured article candidate. Personally, I had planned to let it go through peer review first, especially because I am essentially the only author, but now that it is on FAC, I'd very much like more comments on it. Could you maybe review it and tell me your criticism on FAC? Or maybe even help improving it, if you see things you feel should be improved? Thank you, Lupo 14:13, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC) (P.S.: Congratulations to your t-shirt!)

Chris, what are these black spots on the image of the Federal Charter of 1291? Can you get rid of those? Lupo 10:59, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
And how about using the romantic painting of the Teufelsbrücke instead? I think a reproduction of a painting from 1833 would be PD. (Although obviously not from the right period, it is the only image of the first Teufelsbrücke I had found.) Lupo 11:03, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
A few more (old postcards, all before 1888): [5]. Lupo 11:09, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
An image from 1833 would be PD. Where is it? The photo may show the difficulties in traveling better, depending on the quality of the painting. What spots do you mean on Image:Bundesbrief - 001.png? I can fudge out anything with gimp. I also added portraits of the leaders of the burgundy war -- Chris 73 Talk 11:10, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
about the postcards: if it is related to the history, then great, but many seem to be only town views. I particularly like the bridge for illustration and the document because it is significant to the history. -- Chris 73 Talk 11:12, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
There are black spots on Image:Bundesbrief - 001.png at the top and on the right, and to the left of and below the rightmost seal. Postcards: look for the entries on "Teufelsbrücke"! But anyway, I found out that none of these show the original bridge: the bridge built in the 12th or early 13th century (I've found both 1198 and 1230 as dates) was a wooden construction, which was replaced in the 16th century by the stone bridge depicted in all those old images. BTW, under U.S. law such old images would clearly be PD. But under Swiss law, the situation isn't that clear. For instance, there are three more old images at [6], but the library claims copyright. And unlike fair use, the decision whether something is PD or not depends on local law! Lupo 11:32, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Oh, and by "painting" I meant this (mentioned on FAC). I think it might be PD... Lupo 11:35, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Bau der Teufelsbrücke: nice image, but a bit small. I prefer the photo, but maybe we can add both? I also added a (cheesy?) paintig of the Rütlischwur -- Chris 73 Talk 11:38, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
Don't you think you're overdoing it in the "Burgundy Wars" section? The whole layout has gone to hell. Let's not make this a gallery of medieval dukes... on what grounds would you include those three, but never show an image of Rudolph I, Holy Roman Emperor, or any of the other monarchs mentioned? Lupo 11:38, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Please stop, man! :-) The Rütlischwur is a legend, we shouldn't emphasize it in a historical article. We could place it in (the yet to be written) article on the Rütlischwur, but I don't think it belongs into this article. (Furthermore, 1891 is precisely the reason when this whole glorification of these legends started, because some political leaders in Switzerland at that time thought it necessary to have a unified "founding legend" as a strong indentificator for the 600-year anniversary of the confederation. But all this romanticism is not backed by historical evidences!) Lupo 11:42, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
And please please please, don't add both the photo and the painting of the Teufelsbrücke. I think the article has way too many images already! Lupo 11:44, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
That's why i placed it in the Myths and legends section. But feel free to remove it. Same for the burgundy war guys. I tried to put one fraction on one side, and the other on the other side. But i hope you like Image:1550 illustration for the 1393 Sempacherbrief.jpeg -- Chris 73 Talk 11:45, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
Just removed the burgundy war pictures. -- Chris 73 Talk 11:47, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
Yes, i guess it now has enough images, maybe even a few too much ;-) Let me know if you need images for another article again, but beware: Die Geister die ich rief ... -- Chris 73 Talk
:-) "Besen, Besen, seid's gewesen!" Lupo 11:59, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Images from the Commons

Oh Wizard of the Images, pray tell me: how did you do the link to the images from commons? When I go to [7], I get a mighty bizarre page! (It has no content, no upload log, no nothing. How did you do that?) Lupo 12:11, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Behold, head thee to the commons, where thou can upload images. Image:Bundesbrief - 001.png says This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons, a repository of free content hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation. Please see the image description page for licensing information.. Click on the "Image decription" link to get to here. Basically, if you link any image, wikipedia looks for it on its wiki first, and if it does not find anything it searches the commons. Since i uploaded the image to the commons, there is nothing on this wiki and you get the strange page. The wizzard has spoken :) -- Chris 73 Talk 12:26, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
I bow to your knowledge... I knew about the commons, and I even have uploaded a few pictures there myself, but I didn't know about this search precedence and got pretty confused when a click on an image brought me to a non-existing page. Anyway, are you going to touch up the Bundesbrief now, or shall I do it? Lupo 12:33, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I'll do it. Hang on ... -- Chris 73 Talk 12:35, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
... Done. (Use CTRL reload) -- Chris 73 Talk 12:37, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
Plain "reload" does the trick with my browser :-) Thanks, it looks much better now. Lupo 12:41, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Mine, too. Yes, firefox rules! Chris 73 Talk 12:47, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)


Regarding your inquery "Potturinn" i have no idea what it is, apart from the obvious. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 01:50, 2004 Nov 5 (UTC)

Actually we have an article on it now. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 23:06, 2004 Nov 7 (UTC)

Three Kingdoms of Korea

Hello Chris, At I used the map that you made. Now my problem is this: the Dutch names for the kingdoms are slightly different from the ones you used on the map. Is there a simple way for me to change the names? Maybe you still have a copy without those names? TIA Muijz 14:15, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Hi Chris, I also uploaded thumb|Description on to commons. I hope the references have yoru aproval -Svdmolen 17:38, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Image:Blue-green eye closeup.jpg

File:Blue-green eye closeup.jpg

How do you know Image:Blue-green eye closeup.jpg is in the public domain, the source page has no info about this that i could find. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 23:09, 2004 Nov 7 (UTC)

The stock exchange is a provider of free images. At the bottom of the image it says: There are no usage restrictions for this photo., i.e. it is public domain. Occasionally, there will be a different message saying for e.g. that the user must be contacted before using this image for commercial work. Does this answer your question? Happy editing -- Chris 73 Talk 23:42, Nov 7, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks, just saw it on Wikipedia:Public domain image resources, if you don't mind i'm going to delete the image as it has been uploaded (by me) to the commons, it's also used in the icelandic eye article. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 00:05, 2004 Nov 8 (UTC)
Sorry to bust into your conversation, but as Chris has explained to me, we currently can use images on the commons only through a search preference: if the software doesn't find an image on the local wiki (en: in this case), it looks on the commons. If you now delete that image on en:, a future uploader on en: who just happens to use the name of this image will get no indication whatsoever that he is overriding an existing image. I don't like that at all, it opens the door to endless confusions (and to a new kind of vandalism, too). Lupo 23:27, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
It might open up to some confusion, but as long as you do not use a common name for it i see no issue with it. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 14:29, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC)

Commons template

Hi. You just removed the <br style="clear:both" /> line from the Template:Commons. Without that the template is occassionally indented by other pictures (e.g. on Joystick). Is there a special reason to remove this line? Just curious. Chris 73 Talk 06:33, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)

My reason for removing the br tag was that it was messing up the spacing on some articles; unnecessary whitespace between the "External links" header and what followed was inserted. I also noted that on (e.g.) Template:Wikiquote there is no such tag, so it can surely be lived without. It seems better to handle unusual cases as they come up than have spacing always bad; besides, what would images be doing in the external links section anyway? (I see in the Joystick case a giant image that crosses sections, but that must qualify as unusual.) What do you think? VeryVerily 06:49, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I just resized the image on Joystick. That works for me. Happy editing. -- Chris 73 Talk 06:52, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)

Vandalism at Fresh FM

Thanks for taking care of that fellow. It was starting to get pretty frustrating. (Also, fine work on Japanese Toilet, what a fantastic and amusing article.) -- FirstPrinciples 13:22, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)

Japanische Toiletten

Hallo Chris, ich bin gestern auf Deinen Artikel (das meiste ist ja von Dir) gestossen und war *un-glaub-lich* beeindruckt. Als Japan-Bewohner muss ich sagen: Du hast nichts vergessen (bzw. ich hab viel gelernt), es ist super geschrieben und hat gleichzeitig wissenschaftlichen Standard. Hab es gleich mal an alle Japan-Interessierten weitergeleitet. Ein bisschen schade, dass Du Dein Talent nicht auch in der de.wikipedia austobst... Neumannkun 03:59, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Okay, I've went through all my image contributions and added GFDL to all of them . . . Allentchang 18:28, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Basically, I created a number of images before I fully understood the details of licensing, and so all by original maps were simply released to whoever wanted to use them. I suppose this counts as CopyrightedFreeUse. On later images, I've put GFDL tags, but if the Kiribati map doesn't have one, it came before I started using GFDL. Someone has actually made a {{Vardion}} tag for the early images, although I think that CopyrightedFreeUse is probably good enough. Thanks for checking, anyway. -- Vardion 23:45, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Image:Brdgl.jpg from the commons

Sorry it was a mistake, I thought Image:Brdgl.jpg was listed on Commons:Commons:Images missing information because license information was missing. I have understood now, thanks. Weft 10:56, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Three Kingdoms of Korea

Hello Chris, thank you for the map. Dutch user Danielm adopted it a bit, and put the Dutch names in it. It's used here: nl:Drie_koninkrijken_van_Korea. Muijz 16:10, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The wrong cc license on Commons

Yeah you're right. My mistake. That sucks. I wrote to the creator, asking if he would be willing to license them under cc-by-sa-2.0. I'll let you know if he replies. Could you wait a couple weeks before deleting, in case he agrees? Thanks, Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 15:19, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

Nathan e-mailed me:

Thanks for taking interest in my photographs and site on Tibet. 
I am considering your proposal for a license change, and will 
get back to you shortly!

So I'm still waiting, for now. Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 16:28, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

Just an update. Nathan and I are still negotiating. I'm explaining to his what all GFDL and cc-by-sa mean, and answering a lot of questions for him. I think he's almost sold. Waiting. . . Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 18:58, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
Okay, here's his reply. He hasn't changed the license description on his site yet, but he's assured me that cc-by-sa-2.0 is fine. Yay! Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 13:51, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

thanks for fixing november 15

I was having some trouble trying to put a white margin around the image in Template:November_15_selected_anniversaries but I ended up messing everything. The image got too big no matter what I tried. That's when wikipedia reported me that you had done the job while I was editing.

Well thanks. But I would apreciate a little more help because that's not the first time it happens to me, an image getting just too bog and someone else had to fix for me...

Could you take a look on my user oage and tell me what is that I am mdoing wrong?

Thanks. --Alexandre Van de Sande 16:03, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC) (we've met here before, you found some images for Oscar Niemeyer for me...)

Thankx again.--Alexandre Van de Sande 01:36, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Re: Commons

Thanks, I hadn't really explored the commons much so wasn't aware of the way licensing was done over there (the GFDL notice on the upload form is confusing for a site that allows PD and CC files!). Joe D (t) 15:13, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Hi. It seems, screenshots are usually fair use ([8]), and screenshots from microsoft cannot be modified ([9]). I added the screenshot tags on te commons again. -- Chris 73 Talk 00:02, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

Sorry for being picky about this, and I am not a legal expert, but wouldn't the operating system be a software, which would be copyright to Commodore International? I am pretty sure that microsoft considers its windows and MS-Dos operating systems copyrighted. (see [10]). Personally, I think only screenshots of free programs can be used at the commons, i.e. Linux, Firefox, or, which would be licensed as GFDL. Maybe we should put this issue on the village pump at the commons. Also thanks for creating the commons:Template:Free screenshot, which I will use for GFDL/PD software. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:27, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
  • You seen my comment about fair use and commons: they're not "allowed", so it's right that "fair use" should be removed, but we needed the distinction between "fair use screenshots" and "free screenshots".
  • Your question is good, but I believe it doesn't apply to most of the cases. If the screenshot is about the OS then the owner of the OS can (and probably will) complain. If the screenshot is about a program (for example the most common case is when the screen isn't wholly visible, or there are not OS specific features on it) then I do not believe that the OS creators have anything to claim about the picture. On that particular C64 image there is basically nothing from the OS (unless you count that combination of border and background color part of the OS, which is by my reckoning would be ridiculous, unpatentable and uncopyrightable) and the picture shows a free program only, so I am reasonably sure that such pictures are okay.
Good example of the above can be any screenshot of FireFox on windoze. I'd say that if there's only FireFox visible (with window decorations), or if it's not the capture of the whole screen containing windoze OS parts (start button and panel, etc) then it's free and micro$oft have zero rights on that. If you would capture their program (office) or the windoze desktop, then it is probably their ©opyright violation. If you make a full screen shot with FireFox in the middle and all the windoze cruft around it, well, it's probably better not to tag it as free, or even better to cut away the micro$hit parts.
In case of an OS without visual hints (like C=64) I don't think it's a question. ;-)
But feel free to ask around, especially on wikipedia-legal. --grin 16:59, 2004 Nov 30 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to...

  1. ...all U.S. state, county, and city articles...
  2. ...all articles...

using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 most active Wikipedians, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles.

Nutshell: Wikipedia articles can be shared with any other GFDL project but open/free projects using the incompatible Creative Commons Licenses (e.g. WikiTravel) can't use our stuff and we can't use theirs. It is important to us that other free projects can use our stuff. So we use their licenses too.

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template (or {{MultiLicensePD}} for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:


Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} with {{MultiLicensePD}}. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. -- Ram-Man 18:06, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

You don't have to do anything. Multi-licensing is somewhat passive on your part in that it is up to the person wanting to use your contributions to figure out what is eligible. -- Ram-Man 01:42, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

Hallo Chris, leider habe ich keine E-Mail-Adresse von dir gefunden, so dass ich hier versuche, Kontakt aufzunehmen. Du hast einen Kommentar wegen des Copyrights zu meinem hochgeladenen Bild "Bridge over the Loire" gegeben. Das Foto stammt von mir und ich stelle es zur Verfügung. Ich bin ganz neu hier. Wie kann ich das Copyright ändern... Ich würde gerne noch mehr Bilder hochladen, aber das Ganze erscheint mir doch noch etwas undurchsichtig. Meine E-Mail:

Democrats and Republicans

Chris, I noticed that wikified a bit of Steven Reed. Just a note: The pages Democratic Party and Republican Party are disambiguation pages, so they should not be linked to in articles that refer specifically to the United States Democratic Party and United States Republican Party. Also, a democrat is not the same thing as a Democrat and a republican is not the same as a Republican. --[[User:Ricky81682|Ricky81682 (talk)]] 02:03, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)


thank u for your job. and know about japan very well.i think you know japanese culture better than japanese people! (User:

Thanks. Glad you liked the strauss pictures, and also thanks for the compliments on my Japanese culture knowledge, although I think i still don't know much. --Chris 73 Talk 16:08, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)


Yep, that's me. Thanks for your vote! Regards --[[User:Neutrality|Neutrality/talk]] 23:53, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)